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Old 14th November 2017, 13:21

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Also: can RAM go bad?
Yes, of course it can "go bad".. RAM is basically an electronic chip on a PCB. All electronics can fail.

Most RAM is made in far-eastern factories and is "badge engineered" - that is the company marketing the stuff buys it in bulk and sticks its own branding on it. The better marketing companies perhaps do better quality control checks, that's all.

Cost has little to do with it. Paying for a premium product (as you did) probably lessens your chance of failure but it doesn't eliminate the possibility.

If the RAM is faulty and seeing as you paid for a "premium quality" RAM chip, have you considered contacting the company you purchased from and discussing the possibility of the chips being replaced under a warranty? A polite approach to them explaining the circumstances may work.
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Memtest - That gets loaded to a bootable thumb drive? I need to probably pick up a clean one tomorrow.

Do you have an old Linux CD ROM lying around? Most live CD Linux disk contains memtest on them
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Unfortunately it can be caused by many things, but on the top of the list of things are RAM & PSU.
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I'd give that suggestion a +1.

I had a similar problem with my machine about a year after it was built. memtest showed the ram to be defective. Changed the ram and it's been perfect for 4 years now.
Thanks for all the advise so far, everyone.

I've downloaded and created my MEMTEST bootalble USB drive and how to boot from it. Anything else I should know before I run it?
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Thanks for all the advise so far, everyone.

I've downloaded and created my MEMTEST bootalble USB drive and how to boot from it. Anything else I should know before I run it?
It's a long time since I've used it - 4 years ago as I mentioned - so I can't remember the exact details. As far as I can remember though you need to:

1. Make sure you set your thumb drive to no.1 in boot priority.
2. With your machine switched off plug in your thumb drive.
3. Start your machine and memtest should start up straight away without booting to Windows.

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You need to let memtest run multiple passes. It will keep running test passes until you actually stop it. Running multiple test passes will take a long time. I had to let it run for about 12 hours to complete 8 or 9 passes. So it's best to do this overnight. By the way I have 8Gigs Ram. I don't know for sure but would think if you have more Ram multiple test cycles may take longer.

If you see any errors at all then you need to change your RAM.

Finally, given the length of time since I used memtest it will inevitably have been changed/upgraded over the years, so anything I've said above could be out of date. I would suggest you Google "How to use memtest" or something similar and check out best practice for the most current versions.
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It's a long time since I've used it - 4 years ago as I mentioned - so I can't remember the exact details. As far as I can remember though you need to:

1. Make sure you set your thumb drive to no.1 in boot priority.
2. With your machine switched off plug in your thumb drive.
3. Start your machine and memtest should start up straight away without booting to Windows.

NB

You need to let memtest run multiple passes. It will keep running test passes until you actually stop it. Running multiple test passes will take a long time. I had to let it run for about 12 hours to complete 8 or 9 passes. So it's best to do this overnight. By the way I have 8Gigs Ram. I don't know for sure but would think if you have more Ram multiple test cycles may take longer.

If you see any errors at all then you need to change your RAM.

Finally, given the length of time since I used memtest it will inevitably have been changed/upgraded over the years, so anything I've said above could be out of date. I would suggest you Google "How to use memtest" or something similar and check out best practice for the most current versions.
I finally did manage to load and run MEMTEST and it did take several hours with the 16GB of RAM to get through 1 pass (No errors found)- I plan on leaving it going perhaps Monday while I'm away at work so it can run through multiple passes.
I also tried torture testing the GPU with the burners/benchmarks included with EVGA scanner tools. I had one crash in several hours which is inconclusive. I used different tests that use either the GPU itself or test the memory. One ran for 4 hours in which the GPU temp climbed to 72 degrees and then settled down at 68 degrees.
I am really starting to wonder if there isn't some intermittent issue with the PSU. I don't think there is any to test it.I know it's going to be a pain to replace it if so, because I worked so very hard at cable management to make it oh so pretty! : ( !
Thanks for any other comments suggestions you all might have
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Since it passed the file check no integrity violation, try to do a disk check. I had an issue like yours and it was due to a driver issue. How did you check your drivers? Windows told me my drivers were up to date but I suspected a driver issue. I used a free program (there are a few out there I used Driver Booster by Iobit found my drivers weren't really up to date.) Ran a check and had several drivers 8 which had to be updated and could have caused the freezes. (remember windows told me all my drivers were up to date lol) I had to update the 8 drivers and the freezes disappeared. I use windows 7. Hope that helps.
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You did check for any hardware conflicts, right?

Make sure that an onboard video card didn't get enabled by accident and likewise a sound card. What you are describing sounds like I/O address conflicts.

If you can't find any conflicts, some of your hardware maybe on the blink. I'm not sure how much of a techie pack rat you are but if you have an old video/graphics card that you can test for a few days or whatever and see it the same freezing happens, that could rule in/out your graphics card+GPU and the port.

Check for any added cards such as network cards to make sure that any onboard hardware didn't accidentally get enabled which could potentially conflict with your addon cards.
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You did check for any hardware conflicts, right?

Make sure that an onboard video card didn't get enabled by accident and likewise a sound card. What you are describing sounds like I/O address conflicts.

If you can't find any conflicts, some of your hardware maybe on the blink. I'm not sure how much of a techie pack rat you are but if you have an old video/graphics card that you can test for a few days or whatever and see it the same freezing happens, that could rule in/out your graphics card+GPU and the port.

Check for any added cards such as network cards to make sure that any onboard hardware didn't accidentally get enabled which could potentially conflict with your addon cards.
No on-board video - this was a custom build. No hardware conflicts -
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Ok, I think I'm done fucking with this thing - I'm ready to go to the mattresses on it. I'm going to try for a reset first - I've used it before when a friend of mine didn't understand "safe surfing" and loaded every laptop he ever owned with viruses and malware. If that doesn't work, I'll shoot for a clean install!
Would I have any issues re-using my original Windows key if I clean install? I have heard that MS can be a pain when it comes to that.
Thanks guys!
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